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Repair or replace: how to tell if a roof is finished

The test is how much of the roof has stopped working, not how old it is.

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The short answer

Age is not the test. Extent is. If the failures are scattered — a dozen slipped slates, a cracked ridge, a split lead flashing — that is a repair, whatever the year the roof went on. If more than about a third of one slope has gone, or the battens and membrane underneath have failed, repairing it again is money spent twice. Nobody can tell you which you have without lifting a slate and looking behind it.

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Age tells you the odds, not the answer

A slate roof laid in 1890 can be sound. A concrete tile roof laid in 1974 can be finished. Age only gives you a probability: Welsh slate outlasts a century, clay tiles sixty to a hundred years, concrete interlocking tiles forty to sixty, torch-on felt fifteen to twenty-five.

What actually fails first is almost never the tile. It is the nails, the battens, the mortar and the lead. So the question worth answering is not how old the roof is. It is how much of it has stopped working, and whether the parts you cannot see from the ground have gone with it.

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The one-third rule

Rule of thumb, and it is only that: if the failures are spread across more than about a third of a single slope, stripping and re-laying that slope costs less over ten years than repairing it again and again. Under a third, with sound battens behind, repair it.

The rule works because roof repairs do not scale the way people expect. Most of the cost of a small repair is getting someone safely to the spot — the ladder, the tower, the scaffold, sometimes a parking suspension on a narrow street. Doubling the number of slates barely moves the price. Coming back next winter means paying for the access again.

Note the wording: a slope, not a roof. Terraces and semis often have one slope taking every south-westerly gale while the other side sits sheltered and untouched. Re-roofing one slope and repairing the other is a normal job. It is worth asking for before you accept a price for the whole thing.

03

Nail sickness is a verdict on the slope, not the slate

Every nail on a slope went in the same week, out of the same keg, and has had the same winters since. So when the fixings start letting go they do it together, and the slates that arrive in the garden are perfectly sound — pick one off the path and it is still hard and still rings when you tap it.

That changes the arithmetic rather than the diagnosis. Re-hanging one slate drives a fresh nail into a batten of the same vintage, so each visit buys a season and books the next. Enough of them and you have paid for a stripped slope and been given a patchwork instead. The question to put to whoever is quoting is not what is wrong with this slate; it is how many more of these they expect you to be buying.

Concrete tile roofs fail differently. Concrete absorbs water, so after forty-odd years the tiles are heavier than the day they were laid, more porous, and gritty where the cement face has weathered off. A slope that dips between the rafters is usually battens giving way under that extra weight rather than the rafters themselves.

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The battens and the membrane decide it

Lift a slate and you should see a batten with clean timber around the nail, and behind it a membrane that is still flexible. That is a roof worth repairing.

Old bitumen sarking felt — broadly anything laid before the late 1990s — goes brittle. It cracks along the batten lines, tears at the nail holes, then sags between rafters and holds a puddle instead of shedding it towards the gutter. Torn felt rarely leaks by itself, but it removes the second line of defence, so every future slipped slate becomes a wet ceiling rather than a damp batten.

Battens fail at the nail. Water tracks down the shank, the timber softens around the hole, and the nail pulls through. Where a batten crumbles as a slate nail is drawn, nothing can be re-hung on it reliably, and no amount of care makes that repair last. This is also why nobody can give you an honest answer over the phone or from the pavement. A batten cannot be seen from the ground.

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What to look for from inside the loft

A torch and ten minutes on a dry day tells you most of it. Stand on the joists rather than the plasterboard, and do not go up at all if the hatch, the ladder or the boarding is poor.

Daylight through the covering
A few pinholes near the ridge are normal in an unfelted roof. Daylight in scattered patches down a slope means slates are missing or slipped and there is nothing behind them.
The state of the felt
Press it. Flexible and intact is fine. Brittle, split along the batten lines, or sagging into filled pockets means it has stopped doing its job.
Batten colour
Pale dry timber is sound. Dark streaking running down from the nail line, or timber a screwdriver sinks into, is not.
Wet trails on the rafters
Follow a stain uphill. One trail is a defect. Trails in several places along the same slope is a pattern, and a pattern is the argument for re-roofing.
Rust staining on the insulation
Orange-brown marks on the quilt below the slate line mean fixings above are corroding and shedding. It is a quiet early sign of nail fatigue.
Damp with no rain
Even wetness on the underside of the felt in cold weather, days after the last rain, is condensation rather than a leak. That is a ventilation problem and far cheaper to put right.
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Where the money actually crosses over

Scaffold is what decides it. It is paid for every time someone needs to be up there rather than once. Repeated repair visits, each with its own access, add up to the price of a stripped and re-laid slope — without the decades that a new slope comes with.

So the crossover is not really about the price of a repair. It is about how many repairs you are honestly buying. One repair that fixes a known defect on a sound slope is excellent value. A fourth repair on a slope with nail fatigue is not, and anyone quoting for it without saying so is taking your money.

One more thing when you compare quotes: check whether each figure includes VAT. It is the commonest reason two prices look further apart than they are.

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When repair is the right answer, even on an old roof

Most roofs are not finished, and a quote that opens with a new roof before anyone has lifted a slate deserves a second opinion. These are the cases where repair is plainly correct.

Storm damage to an otherwise sound roof
Wind lifted a few slates. The rest are properly nailed and the battens are dry. Replace what went, re-fix the courses either side, and it is done. This is also the case insurers pay for.
A leak at a chimney, a valley or an abutment
Lead is a repair, not a roof. Split lead, failed mortar or a stepped flashing that has worked loose is a day's work and says nothing about the age of the covering.
Cracked ridge or hip mortar
Bedding mortar shrinks and cracks as it ages, letting water run into the roof space along the ridge line. Re-bedding, or a dry ridge that is mechanically fixed instead of bedded, sorts the whole ridge for a fraction of a re-roof.
One slope gone, the other sound
Do the failed slope now and leave the good one. Two jobs ten years apart is cheaper than one bill today.
A listed building or a conservation area
Consent, matching materials and hand-sorted reclaimed slate all push towards careful repeated repair rather than replacement. Speak to the council before anyone touches it.
Condensation mistaken for a leak
A cold loft with blocked eaves ventilation soaks its own timbers. New slates would not have fixed it. Vents and airflow will.
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What a re-roof includes that a repair cannot

Stripping a slope is not simply new slates. It is new treated battens at the correct gauge, a breathable membrane in place of the old bitumen felt, fresh fixings throughout, and usually mechanically fixed dry ridge and verge rather than mortar that will crack again in fifteen years. Lead at a chimney or an abutment gets renewed while the scaffold is already standing, which is far cheaper than returning for it later.

It is also the only moment the roof is open. Insulation at rafter level, or a roof window, happens now or not for another few decades.

One piece of paperwork matters. The threshold is a quarter: past that, re-covering is notifiable building work, and past a half Part L treats the roof as a renovated thermal element, so the insulation has to come up to the current standard as part of the job — a real cost that belongs in the quote rather than being discovered halfway through. Whoever does the work either self-certifies under a competent person scheme or notifies building control before starting. We are not on the Competent Roofer scheme, so ours goes to the borough and the completion certificate comes back from them. Keep it; a buyer's solicitor will ask for it.

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Questions worth asking whoever quotes

Ask to be shown a photograph of a batten with a slate lifted, not a photograph of the roof from the garden. Ask which slope and why not the other one. Ask what happens to the slates that come off, because sound reclaimed slate has real value and should either go back on or come off the bill. Ask for the guarantee in writing, with a term on it and a plain description of what it covers.

If someone cannot show you the underside of the roof and will not put the extent of the failure in writing, what you have is not an assessment. It is a preference.

Questions

01

Can anything stop the work once it has started?

Bats can, and it is worth knowing before rather than during. Every British bat species and every roost is protected, whether or not there is a bat in it at the time, and disturbing one is a criminal offence regardless of intent. They roost under slates, behind bargeboards and in open lofts, so a strip is exactly when they turn up. If we find droppings or a roost the work on that part stops, and the route is the Bat Conservation Trust helpline and Natural England rather than pressing on — they say what can go ahead and when. Tell us at the survey if you have ever seen bats around the house at dusk; it is far cheaper to plan around than to discover.

02

Is there an age at which a roof has to be replaced?

No. Plenty of Victorian slate roofs in South London are still original and still watertight, and plenty of 1970s tile roofs are past saving. Coverings have typical lifespans, but the fixings, battens and membrane behind them decide the actual date. Judge the roof in front of you, not the calendar.

03

Can a roofer tell from the ground?

Only partly. Slipped slates, a sagging ridge line, cracked mortar and blown flashings are all visible from the street with binoculars. Nail condition, batten condition and the state of the felt are not. Any quote for a full re-roof given without a look in the loft and at least one slate lifted is guesswork.

04

How long is the scaffold up, and can I stay in the house?

You live in it throughout. The roof is stripped a slope at a time and sheeted watertight before the crew leave each evening, so the house is never open overnight. Reckon on two to four days for a single slope and five to eight days for a whole terrace roof, plus a day either side for the scaffold. Rain stops the work at the point the roof is open, so a wet fortnight stretches it, and anyone promising a fixed finish date in February is guessing at the weather.

05

Should I get a second opinion?

Yes, and make the opinions comparable. Ask each roofer the same three things: roughly what proportion of the slope has failed, what condition the battens are in, and what they would do if it were their own house. Two honest quotes will agree closely on extent even when the prices differ.

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My homebuyer survey says the roof is nearing the end of its life. Is it?

Not necessarily. Surveyors inspect from ground level and the loft hatch, and they word things cautiously because they carry the liability. It is a reason to get a roofer up there, not a verdict. Sometimes the report is right; often it describes a roof with fifteen years left and some flashing work due.

07

Is it worth re-roofing before I sell?

Usually not as an investment — buyers rarely pay back the full cost of a new roof in the offer. What a failing roof does is hand them something to negotiate with, and a slipped-slate photograph in a survey costs more in haggling than the repair would have. Fix what is actually broken and keep the invoices.

08

A gale took slates off. Is that a claim or a re-roof?

Storm damage to a sound roof is usually covered. Wear, age and gradual deterioration are usually not, and insurers examine that line closely. So a policy might pay to replace the slates a gale took off, but will not fund a re-roof because the nails have reached the end of their life.

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